1885 - 1916
CPL David Wallace Crawford
1887 - 1916
Lce-Corpl John Joseph Nickle
1894 - 1916
Pte 17911 Morton Neill
1897 - 1916
Lieut Edward Stanley Ashcroft
1883 - 1918
Pte 23815 Robert Roberts

- Age: 21
- From: Carnarvon
- Regiment: The King's (Liverpool Regiment) 20th Btn
- K.I.A Sunday 30th July 1916
- Commemorated at: Thiepval Memorial
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Robert Roberts was born on the 02nd July 1895, with twin sister Elizabeth, in Caernarvon and was the son of Gwilym (William) Roberts and Sarah (née Williams). His father born in Beddgelert, Merioneth, and his mother in Llandegai, near Bangor, married in about 1888 and had six children; only five children appear in census records: Owen, John Llewellyn, twins Elizabeth and Robert, all born in Carnarvon, and Griffith, born in Bangor. The parents and children speak both English and Welsh.
Formed in November 1914 the 20th Battalion were originally billeted at Tournament Hall, Knotty Ash before on 29th January 1915 they moved to the hutted accommodation purposely built at Lord Derby’s estate at Knowsley Hall. On 30th April 1915 the 20th Battalion alongside the other three Pals battalions left Liverpool via Prescot Station for further training at Belton Park, Grantham. They remained here until September 1915 when they reached Larkhill Camp on Salisbury Plain. He shipped to France with his battalion, disembarking at Boulogne on 07th November 1915.
The 20th King’s Battalion Diary records:
“At 4.45am prompt the attack was launched. Unfortunately, a thick mist prevailed and it was impossible to see more than 10 yards ahead. This continued until about 6 o’clock when it lifted slightly, but it was still too hazy and impossible to see what was happening 100 yards ahead. This being so, it was not surprising to find that the attacking waves were experiencing great difficulty in maintaining connection.”
At 6am, Lt. RE Melly, No.1 Company, reported that his men had taken the German Maltz Horn trench.
At 6.30am, 2/Lt. CP Moore reported that he had 150 men, 4 Stokes Mortars and 2 Lewis Guns, but he was the only officer. He also said that due to the fog, both his “flanks were in the air” i.e. he was not in contact with neighbouring troops.
At 9.10am, Moore was still not in contact at his flanks, and now he had only 75 men, he had sent out 2 patrols and neither not returned. Later Moore established communication with the French on his right.
Around 10.00am, 2/Lt Musker reported that he had just over a company with him, but his left flank was suffering from German machine gun fire. Later he reported that he had over 30 casualties from the machine gun fire. His flanks were also “in the air”. No contact was made with this party until the remnants returned around 9.30pm, all runners sent were killed or missing. The War Diary states that this group had: ”held the ground won all day, and this permitted the consolidation of the ground won on the Maltz Horn ridge with little interference from the enemy”.
Relief for 20/Kings had been planned for 11.00pm, but it was 5.00am on the 31st July before it took place, ending a tragic day for the Liverpool Pals.
Casualties for 20th Battalion were 16 Officers and 357 Other Ranks
When darkness fell on the battlefield the 30th Division held a line from the railway on the eastern side of Trones Wood , southwards and including Arrow Head Copse, to east of Maltz Horn Farm. On this line the division was relieved by the 55th Division during the early hours of the 31st July.
The events of 30th July 1916 were regarded at the time as Liverpool’s blackest day. There follows an extract from The History of the 89th Brigade written by Brigadier General Ferdinand Stanley which gives an indication of the events of the day.
Guillemont
Well the hour to advance came, and of all bad luck in the world it was a thick fog; so thick that you couldn’t see more than about ten yards. It was next to impossible to delay the attack – it was much too big an operation- so forward they had to go. It will give some idea when I say that on one flank we had to go 1,750 yards over big rolling country. Everyone knows what it is like to cross enclosed country which you know really well in a fog and how easy it is to lose your way. Therefore, imagine these rolling hills, with no landmarks and absolutely unknown to anyone. Is it surprising that people lost their way and lost touch with those next to them? As a matter of fact, it was wonderful the way in which many men found their way right to the place we wanted to get to. But as a connected attack it was impossible.
The fog was intense it was practically impossible to keep direction and parties got split up. Owing to the heavy shelling all the Bosches had left their main trenches and were lying out in the open with snipers and machine guns in shell holes, so of course our fellows were the most easy prey.
It is so awfully sad now going about and finding so many splendid fellows gone.
Robert was posted as Missing and a notice appeared in the Caernarfon and Denbigh Herald on Friday 01st September 1916:
“On Sunday, Mr. and Mrs. Roberts, 1, Glynllifon Terrace, Groeslon, received intimation that their son, Private Robert Roberts, has been missing in France since July 30. Private Roberts belonged to the King’s Liverpool Regiment.”
Bob's death was reported in the Herald Cymraeg on Tuesday 26 June 1917; (A Welsh translation by Google Apps)
Loss Of A Soldier.
The acquaintances and family of Mr and Mrs William Roberts, Station House, Groeslon will regret that there is now certainty that their son Bob, Private Roberts, 23315, King's Liverpool Regiment, who was reported as “missing” was killed in France. They received the information from the War Office on the 7th of this month that they had to come to the decision, with regrets, that he was killed on the 30th of July 1916 in the field of battle in France. Bob was always small, scrawny, and full of character. He was born in the town of Carnarvon on July 2nd, 1895, so he lost his life on the verge of his 22nd birthday. Bob was always free spirited, cheerful, full of energy and a pure character. The family moved to Bangor in 1897 and they moved to Groeslon in 1908. Bob was for a while a clothier's principal servant with Mr J. T. Jones, Groeslon, then moved to Liverpool. He worked as a clerk in Owen Owens Trading House and Company, London Road. From there he went into the Army in October 1914. He went over to France in October 1915, and died as stated on July 30th, 1916. We sympathize with the family in their deep grief. The worry about him throughout the month was overwhelming for them. Mr William Roberts, a native of Nantmor, the son of a humble farmer in Clogwyn, and he is known by his friends and his peers as William y Clogwyn. They have two other sons with the army, namely Willie, the eldest, in France, and Johnny in Egypt.
Bob was reported as killed in action in the Merioneth News and Herald and Barmouth Record - Friday 06 July 1917
Groeslon.
Killed in Action.
This is photograph of Private Robert Roberts (son of Mr W. Roberts, station master, Groeslon), who killed in action in France. Last year he was reported missing, but intimation has now been received he has been killed. He was the grandson of Mr and Mrs Roberts, Clogwyn, Beddgelert, and served with the King's Liverpool Regiment.
The Thiepval Memorial, the Memorial to the Missing of the Somme, bears the names of more than 72,000 officers and men of the United Kingdom and South African forces who died in the Somme sector before 20 March 1918 and have no known grave. Over 90% of those commemorated died between July and November 1916.
On 01st August 1932 the Prince of Wales and the President of France inaugurated the Thiepval Memorial in Picardy. The inscription reads: “Here are recorded the names of officers and men of the British Armies who fell on the Somme battlefields between July 1915 and March 1918 but to whom the fortune of war denied the known and honoured burial given to their comrades in death.”
His parents, at Station House, 1 Glynllefan Terrace, Groeslon, Carnarvonshire, received a pension, his army pay of £5 1s 6d, and a War Gratuity of £7-10s.
In 1939 his parents were living at 11 Constantine Terrace, Carnarvon. His father is 76, retired, and his mother 74.
His father died in the March quarter of 1944, aged 80.
His mother died, aged 78, at home on the 22nd November 1944.
Her death was reported in the Caernarvon & Denbigh Herald on Friday 24 November 1944;
ROBERTS - November 22 at 11 Constantine Terrace, Carrnarvon, Sarah, dearly beloved wife of Gwillym Roberts, aged 78 years. Funeral (private). No flowers by request.
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